What Meta and Anthropic really won in court
A lot of the future of AI will be settled in court. From publishers to authors to artists to Hollywood conglomerates, the creative industry is picking a big copyright fight over the vast quantities of data used to train AI models - and the ultimate output of those models. (Disclosure: Vox Media, The Verge's parent […]


A lot of the future of AI will be settled in court. From publishers to authors to artists to Hollywood conglomerates, the creative industry is picking a big copyright fight over the vast quantities of data used to train AI models - and the ultimate output of those models. (Disclosure: Vox Media, The Verge's parent company, has a technology and content deal with OpenAI.) This week, we got rulings in two early cases, involving groups of authors suing Anthropic and Meta. In both cases, the tech companies won. Sort of.
On this episode of The Vergecast, Nilay, David, and Jake talk a lot about the twin rulings this week, and whether the AI companies may have won the battle without winning the war. But before we get to all that, there's some other tech news to talk about! We run through the first few days of the Tesla robotaxi rollout and the latest on the Trump Phone, both of which are going about as you'd expect. We talk about the new Fairphone 6 and Titan 2, two fascinating but maybe slightly niche ideas about smartphones. And we talk about Meta's new face computers, one made with Xbox and one made with Oakley.
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